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]]> By: Buckeyecop http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-16048 Buckeyecop Tue, 02 Oct 2007 04:52:10 +0000 http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-16048 I agree with Jedi. Local law enforcement is not informed, usually, about anything by the FBI. According to the FBI, there is absolutely nothing to be concerned about. About anything. Any person without the training the FBI receives can use common sense and tell if a threat is credible. When you have seventeen buses missing from one city, known members of known extremists groups signing on as bus drivers, and several reports of men of middle-eastern descent getting on school buses, I would say we have plenty to worry about. I sure am glad we 't fight WWII this way. The FBI's problem is they're afraid of offending they very ones who want to kill us. "Move on, nothing to see here..." BTW, my jurisdiction fits the profile of the school takeover scenario, and although I've done my homework, most officers around heard it on Glenn Beck for the first time. So much for improved information sharing from the feds. I agree with Jedi. Local law enforcement is not informed, usually, about anything by the FBI.

According to the FBI, there is absolutely nothing to be concerned about. About anything. Any person without the training the FBI receives can use common sense and tell if a threat is credible. When you have seventeen buses missing from one city, known members of known extremists groups signing on as bus drivers, and several reports of men of middle-eastern descent getting on school buses, I would say we have plenty to worry about. I sure am glad we ‘t fight WWII this way.

The FBI’s problem is they’re afraid of offending they very ones who want to kill us.

“Move on, nothing to see here…”

BTW, my jurisdiction fits the profile of the school takeover scenario, and although I’ve done my homework, most officers around heard it on Glenn Beck for the first time. So much for improved information sharing from the feds.

]]> By: r/c jedi http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-16044 r/c jedi Tue, 02 Oct 2007 03:18:07 +0000 http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-16044 in victoria we reported several schoolbusses stopped on biz 59 south to 911 on suspicion. Their markings were painted over and when approached the drivers blocked the plates. 911 refused to respond since we withheld our i.d. They said they never heard of busses missing in Houston. the incident was probably just vehicles going to mex as used, but who knows now? Local law enforcement is just is not informed about national concerns. I guess if terrorists have any smarts at all, they will be able to do as they please. in victoria we reported several schoolbusses stopped on biz 59 south to 911 on suspicion. Their markings were painted over and when approached the drivers blocked the plates. 911 refused to respond since we withheld our i.d. They said they never heard of busses missing in Houston.

the incident was probably just vehicles going to mex as used, but who knows now?
Local law enforcement is just is not informed about national concerns. I guess if terrorists have any smarts at all, they will be able to do as they please.

]]> By: cliffdweller http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15784 cliffdweller Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:05:30 +0000 http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15784 School bus terrorism and school terrorism would be much less likely to occur if drivers, teachers, and administrators with concealed weapon permits were armed and well trained in the use of arms, and willing to use them to protect the children. The idea of "gun free" zones is an invitation to terrorists and other criminals of every sort as it advertises that this is an unprotected place and is safe to attack. Also, concerned parents should ride the buses and patrol the schools. Ideally these folks should also have concealed weapon permits and be armed and well trained as above. When my children were in grade school a number of years ago there was a sex predator scare. It took us only one day to have a full roster of volunteer parents to register every person who came into the building and send them directly to the office to be identified before they could visit their child in the classroom. Only the front door was unlocked. All others were locked so that no one could enter from the outside. Our parent patrol lasted until the end of the school year with no objections from anyone--only gratitude that we were there. People must be pro-active in protecting those most precious to them. Police do the best they can but cannot be everywhere in time to prevent every crime from happening. We must all stop being cowards and live up to our responsibilities as parents and members of the community. School bus terrorism and school terrorism would be much less likely to occur if drivers, teachers, and administrators with concealed weapon permits were armed and well trained in the use of arms, and willing to use them to protect the children. The idea of “gun free” zones is an invitation to terrorists and other criminals of every sort as it advertises that this is an unprotected place and is safe to attack.
Also, concerned parents should ride the buses and patrol the schools. Ideally these folks should also have concealed weapon permits and be armed and well trained as above.
When my children were in grade school a number of years ago there was a sex predator scare. It took us only one day to have a full roster of volunteer parents to register every person who came into the building and send them directly to the office to be identified before they could visit their child in the classroom. Only the front door was unlocked. All others were locked so that no one could enter from the outside. Our parent patrol lasted until the end of the school year with no objections from anyone–only gratitude that we were there.
People must be pro-active in protecting those most precious to them. Police do the best they can but cannot be everywhere in time to prevent every crime from happening.
We must all stop being cowards and live up to our responsibilities as parents and members of the community.

]]> By: thinkin4myself http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15775 thinkin4myself Sat, 15 Sep 2007 16:57:22 +0000 http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15775 In all honesty, you can hide elephants wherever you want. Often times, they are hidden in the open. School buses are really no different. Any auto body shop, riverfront warehouse, abandoned garages, etc... are perfect hiding places. However, rural areas, large cities, all have their places for this type of crime of terrorism. How more perfect to strike at the core of America than to do something to a school bus of children? The devastation, grief and anger would be tremendous but some people are paralyzed by it mentally. As I leave my house in the mornings it is RARE to see a parent standing at the bus stop with their little children - even the youngest. Most parents have NEVER laid eyes on the person that drives that school bus, they only know that person by Miss SOandSO or Mr Whoever. They don't know the face, the background and don't consider it until something goes wrong or perceived wrong. Rarely does the school mediate with parent and bus driver in the same room. Bus drivers should as one person mentioned be checked on a regular basis. Although not perfect, is certainly a better deterent. This area has had in the past year more than 25 wrecks caused by bus drivers and three child molesters driving buses. Another one was shot to death by a student. We've had a bus driver that told a child he was going to hell because he was reading Harry Potter and a multitude of others that are so loving and caring for the students they drive. Be involved in the system, require your schools to have the bus drivers meet the parents on Parent Teacher night. It is not just Parents and Teachers that need to meet it is the entire school faculty from Teachers to staff/maintenance/bus drivers and crossing guards. Know their faces. Some of them are parents and grandparents too that would love to see the parent of the children they drive care. In all honesty, you can hide elephants wherever you want. Often times, they are hidden in the open. School buses are really no different. Any auto body shop, riverfront warehouse, abandoned garages, etc… are perfect hiding places. However, rural areas, large cities, all have their places for this type of crime of terrorism. How more perfect to strike at the core of America than to do something to a school bus of children? The devastation, grief and anger would be tremendous but some people are paralyzed by it mentally. As I leave my house in the mornings it is RARE to see a parent standing at the bus stop with their little children - even the youngest. Most parents have NEVER laid eyes on the person that drives that school bus, they only know that person by Miss SOandSO or Mr Whoever. They don’t know the face, the background and don’t consider it until something goes wrong or perceived wrong. Rarely does the school mediate with parent and bus driver in the same room. Bus drivers should as one person mentioned be checked on a regular basis. Although not perfect, is certainly a better deterent. This area has had in the past year more than 25 wrecks caused by bus drivers and three child molesters driving buses. Another one was shot to death by a student. We’ve had a bus driver that told a child he was going to hell because he was reading Harry Potter and a multitude of others that are so loving and caring for the students they drive. Be involved in the system, require your schools to have the bus drivers meet the parents on Parent Teacher night. It is not just Parents and Teachers that need to meet it is the entire school faculty from Teachers to staff/maintenance/bus drivers and crossing guards. Know their faces. Some of them are parents and grandparents too that would love to see the parent of the children they drive care.

]]> By: Maryann http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15772 Maryann Sat, 15 Sep 2007 16:12:32 +0000 http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15772 Here is something to think about? The Tacoma Washington School Board just authorized the purchase of cameras for all buses--not unusual, right? Well, they also authorized GPS tracking devices for the 165 school buses in the district. Used the excuse if they could save one mile a day on each bus, they would save a bundle on fuel. The other reason was we have curb to curb tracking of our kids. How many kids do not make it home off the bus? The problem usually is that a very young student falls asleep on the bus and it is parked in the bus yard and they know where it is. Hence, what good would the GPS do when you know where the bus is. They must think the bus drivers are out for leisurely drives before or after their routes--or they have been told something that we the parents have not been told. Another intersting thing that happened here in Washington State, the week before school started, the Washington State Patrol boarded all the school buses, to check to make sure they were in working order. (light , blinker etc.) Isn't that what the maintenance department is hired and required to do and get paid for it. It is something to think about and wonder what info they have that they are not disclosing to the public. Here is something to think about? The Tacoma Washington School Board just authorized the purchase of cameras for all buses–not unusual, right?
Well, they also authorized GPS tracking devices for the 165 school buses in the district. Used the excuse if they could save one mile a day on each bus, they would save a bundle on fuel. The other reason was we have curb to curb tracking of our kids. How many kids do not make it home off the bus? The problem usually is that a very young student falls asleep on the bus and it is parked in the bus yard and they know where it is. Hence, what good would the GPS do when you know where the bus is. They must think the bus drivers are out for leisurely drives before or after their routes–or they have been told something that we the parents have not been told. Another intersting thing that happened here in Washington State, the week before school started, the Washington State Patrol boarded all the school buses, to check to make sure they were in working order. (light , blinker etc.) Isn’t that what the maintenance department is hired and required to do and get paid for it. It is something to think about and wonder what info they have that they are not disclosing to the public.

]]> By: l.bohnsack http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15756 l.bohnsack Sat, 15 Sep 2007 03:47:36 +0000 http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15756 I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE OUR BUS DRIVERS BACKGROUND CHECKS DONE EVERY 2 MONTHS OR SOMETHING . KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THEM AND THEIR BUSES AND WHO TAKES CARE OF THEM, AS WELL AS WHO REPAIRS THEM. I FEEL THAT ALL TEACHERS SHOULD HAVE BACK GROUND CHECKS PERIODICALLY. I FEEL AS WELL ,THAT EVERY SCHOOL,REGUARDLESS OF SIZE SHOULD HAVE INHOUSE SECURITY. PARENTS SHOULD BE AWARE OF EVERYTHING PERTAINING TO THEIR CHILDREN,THEY NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN EVERYTHING,PERSON,EVENT,ETC.WE AS PARENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR CHILDRENS SAFETY. AND EVERYONE SHOULD TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY. OUR CHILDREN ARE THE INOCENT,SWEET ,AN CAN NOT BE REPLACED. LET'S KEEP OUR KIDS SAFE,AS BEST AS WE CAN. I'M SCARED TO THINK THAT THE BUS ARE BEING STOLEN AND WE DON'T KNOW WHO IS DOING IT OR WHAT THEY ARE DOING OR WHAT THEY PLAN ON DOING WITH THEM. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE OUR BUS DRIVERS BACKGROUND CHECKS DONE EVERY 2 MONTHS OR SOMETHING . KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THEM AND THEIR BUSES AND WHO TAKES CARE OF THEM, AS WELL AS WHO REPAIRS THEM. I FEEL THAT ALL TEACHERS SHOULD HAVE BACK GROUND CHECKS PERIODICALLY. I FEEL AS WELL ,THAT EVERY SCHOOL,REGUARDLESS OF SIZE SHOULD HAVE INHOUSE SECURITY. PARENTS SHOULD BE AWARE OF EVERYTHING PERTAINING TO THEIR CHILDREN,THEY NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN EVERYTHING,PERSON,EVENT,ETC.WE AS PARENTS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR CHILDRENS SAFETY. AND EVERYONE SHOULD TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY. OUR CHILDREN ARE THE INOCENT,SWEET ,AN CAN NOT BE REPLACED. LET’S KEEP OUR KIDS SAFE,AS BEST AS WE CAN. I’M SCARED TO THINK THAT THE BUS ARE BEING STOLEN AND WE DON’T KNOW WHO IS DOING IT OR WHAT THEY ARE DOING OR WHAT THEY PLAN ON DOING WITH THEM.

]]> By: Bradley Shavers http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15700 Bradley Shavers Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:51:54 +0000 http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15700 I suggest that everyone watch Glenn Becks special, "the perfect Day" then good key words like Iran, Nuclear attack on the US, the stolen school busses in Houston and recent Osoma Bin Laudin tapes. Connect the dots then put everything together then get informed I suggest that everyone watch Glenn Becks special, “the perfect Day” then good key words like Iran, Nuclear attack on the US, the stolen school busses in Houston and recent Osoma Bin Laudin tapes. Connect the dots then put everything together then get informed

]]> By: Gregory http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15651 Gregory Thu, 13 Sep 2007 02:16:41 +0000 http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15651 First of all the government, schools, and media are staying silent for one or two reasons: 1. They don't want to start a panic, 2. They are keeping quiet because they are working on leads through the Intelligence Arena (NSA, CIA, DIA, FBI, ATF, etc) to nail these people and by broadcasting it through the media about the leads will cause the terrorists to alter plans so the feds can't stop it in time. I listen to Glenn Beck every day. He seems well informed about the possible scenario through his own contacts. Now, nothing against Glenn Beck because I do like the guy, but it seems to me that a radio talk show host who knows about this scenario including the missing school buses and everything else says something about leaks in our Intelligence Community. How is he getting his information and telling it to the public. I understand the peoples' right to know and respect it but if a radio talk show host can get this info from contacts in the Intelligence arena then who's to say who else has this information. And more food for thought : how does Chertoff or Bush or any other fed authority present this information to the public and in what manner so as to not create a panic - a very good trick in itself. People's right to know -vs- Security!!! My partial solution to the problem is don't hire any middle eastern people to drive school buses. If they cry discrimination show them the door back to their country. WE HAVE OUR KIDS TO WORRY ABOUT, THEY MEAN EVERYTHING TO US AND NO WHERE IN THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION DOES IT SAY THAT WE MUST PUT OUR CHILDREN IN HARMS' WAY AND MUST SURRENDER OUR CHILDREN'S RIGHTS TO THE GOVERNMENT IN ORDER TO PROTECT POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. First of all the government, schools, and media are staying silent for one or two reasons: 1. They don’t want to start a panic, 2. They are keeping quiet because they are working on leads through the Intelligence Arena (NSA, CIA, DIA, FBI, ATF, etc) to nail these people and by broadcasting it through the media about the leads will cause the terrorists to alter plans so the feds can’t stop it in time. I listen to Glenn Beck every day. He seems well informed about the possible scenario through his own contacts. Now, nothing against Glenn Beck because I do like the guy, but it seems to me that a radio talk show host who knows about this scenario including the missing school buses and everything else says something about leaks in our Intelligence Community. How is he getting his information and telling it to the public. I understand the peoples’ right to know and respect it but if a radio talk show host can get this info from contacts in the Intelligence arena then who’s to say who else has this information. And more food for thought : how does Chertoff or Bush or any other fed authority present this information to the public and in what manner so as to not create a panic - a very good trick in itself. People’s right to know -vs- Security!!!
My partial solution to the problem is don’t hire any middle eastern people to drive school buses. If they cry discrimination show them the door back to their country. WE HAVE OUR KIDS TO WORRY ABOUT, THEY MEAN EVERYTHING TO US AND NO WHERE IN THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION DOES IT SAY THAT WE MUST PUT OUR CHILDREN IN HARMS’ WAY AND MUST SURRENDER OUR CHILDREN’S RIGHTS TO THE GOVERNMENT IN ORDER TO PROTECT POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.

]]> By: Maurice Lubee http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15610 Maurice Lubee Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:34:33 +0000 http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15610 Hate to write twice, but the terrosist thing just doesn't add up. Where would a terrorist group store 20 school buses without being noticed given all attendant publicity? Nowhere. Why are buses only being stolen in North Houston? Because the ring that is selling them in Mexico has a bus thief living in Houston. I love Glenn Beck, agree with him most of the time. On this issue however, we part company. These buses are being stolen for profit not terrorism. This school bus thing is on it's way to becoming another urban legend and slice of Americana Paranoia. Hate to write twice, but the terrosist thing just doesn’t add up. Where would a terrorist group store 20 school buses without being noticed given all attendant publicity?

Nowhere.

Why are buses only being stolen in North Houston?

Because the ring that is selling them in Mexico has a bus thief living in Houston.

I love Glenn Beck, agree with him most of the time.

On this issue however, we part company. These buses are being stolen for profit not terrorism.

This school bus thing is on it’s way to becoming another urban legend and slice of Americana Paranoia.

]]> By: Maurice Lubee http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15607 Maurice Lubee Wed, 12 Sep 2007 14:51:10 +0000 http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15607 I don't agree the plan is to pick kids up at school - too problematic., too unwieldy. The plan more likely is to fill the 27 schoolbuses with explosives, drive them into 27 different school yards filled with kids boarding buses to go home, and detonate the explosives at approximately the same time. There is also the possibility they will add some radioactive material to the explosives to cause survivors and rescue workers exposure resulting in radiation burns. Orrrrrrrrrrr, the school buses are being stolen to sell in Mexico, and are currently being used in Mexico..... which is a scenario I much prefer and one I believe is more plausible. Obviously the buses are being stolen inj North Houston, taken to and prepared in South Houston for their trip to wherever. I don’t agree the plan is to pick kids up at school - too problematic., too unwieldy.

The plan more likely is to fill the 27 schoolbuses with explosives, drive them into 27 different school yards filled with kids boarding buses to go home, and detonate the explosives at approximately the same time. There is also the possibility they will add some radioactive material to the explosives to cause survivors and rescue workers exposure resulting in radiation burns.

Orrrrrrrrrrr, the school buses are being stolen to sell in Mexico, and are currently being used in Mexico….. which is a scenario I much prefer and one I believe is more plausible. Obviously the buses are being stolen inj North Houston, taken to and prepared in South Houston for their trip to wherever.

]]> By: Nancy http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15538 Nancy Tue, 11 Sep 2007 21:23:25 +0000 http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15538 This is an unimaginably horrific threat on our nation. Why not engage volunteer armed marshalls to watch & protect schools and buses? Why don't we become pro-active here? Why have our schools not communicated with parents on this? Why has the media and federal government been silent? Just as volunteers formed to observe the border, we need to quickly form a Parents/Citizens School Watch Group!!!! Let's keep terrorists and other thugs away from our most precious gift -- our children. This is an unimaginably horrific threat on our nation.
Why not engage volunteer armed marshalls to watch & protect schools and buses? Why don’t we become pro-active here? Why have our schools not communicated with parents on this? Why has the media and federal government been silent?

Just as volunteers formed to observe the border, we need to quickly form a Parents/Citizens School Watch Group!!!! Let’s keep terrorists and other thugs away from our most precious gift — our children.

]]> By: Nicole http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15523 Nicole Tue, 11 Sep 2007 19:55:35 +0000 http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15523 I can't believe this is a possibility, This are our children. We must get involved and we must ask questions. That is our job as parents. I can’t believe this is a possibility, This are our children. We must get involved and we must ask questions. That is our job as parents.

]]> By: Dan Rush http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15511 Dan Rush Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:55:14 +0000 http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15511 Indeed. Here in Washington state the FBI is currently searching for a pair of Arab men who've been "acting strange" (Political correct b.s. term for "Active reconoiter of targets) on the State ferry system and the PacNorthWest has also seen a rash of school bus thefts in the past year. It wouldn't shock me that these ferry reconoiters could be a faint to draw officials to look at the left flank while the terrorist strike the right flank. My advice to parents would be to embrace a little paranoia for once and get back to being involved in their children's school system, harping teachers, badgering supervisors, showing up un-announced to walk the grounds or watch who's driving the buses or standing around the streets. To simply blow this off, especially in light of the magnificent work Mister Glenn Beck has been doing over the past month is to invite potential disaster. Indeed. Here in Washington state the FBI is currently searching for a pair of Arab men who’ve been “acting strange” (Political correct b.s. term for “Active reconoiter of targets) on the State ferry system and the PacNorthWest has also seen a rash of school bus thefts in the past year.

It wouldn’t shock me that these ferry reconoiters could be a faint to draw officials to look at the left flank while the terrorist strike the right flank.

My advice to parents would be to embrace a little paranoia for once and get back to being involved in their children’s school system, harping teachers, badgering supervisors, showing up un-announced to walk the grounds or watch who’s driving the buses or standing around the streets.

To simply blow this off, especially in light of the magnificent work Mister Glenn Beck has been doing over the past month is to invite potential disaster.

]]> By: IdolKIller http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15499 IdolKIller Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:08:55 +0000 http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2007/09/10/school-bus-terrorism-threat/#comment-15499 Even my friends back in NYC are scared for us in the DFW area-they want to know what is being done and how this happened in the 1st place. I had a very sick feeling droppin our son off at his High School this morning-God help us all-may all our children be safe and under HIs protection on this day.. Even my friends back in NYC are scared for us in the DFW area-they want to know what is being done and how this happened in the 1st place. I had a very sick feeling droppin our son off at his High School this morning-God help us all-may all our children be safe and under HIs protection on this day..

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