Comments on: 2 Japanese Carrying $134 Billion In U.S. Bonds Detained In Italy

By: Voice of Reason

Voice of Reason — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:14:15 +0000

These bonds are counterfeit. I recognize them from the photo. There was a scam running a few years ago with the same bogus paper. If you can get a closer look you’ll see what I mean. They are a (very) shoddy photoshop of an old silver certificate with a bunch of extra zeros added in. Some clowns were trying to sell the same thing in Japan a while back. Probably thinking to try their luck in Switzerland.

By: Phil

Phil — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:43:19 +0000

There may be another possibility. What if the bonds are counterfeit and they were meant to be found by the Italian authorities? Anyone that was short the dollar would have a great windfall. Away follow the money.

Say a large currency trader, ie George Soros, was short the dollar and long on other currencies, he or they would make a lot of money if they knew that this event was going to happen. It is not like he hasn’t done this before to other governments, ie the British pound. The two Japanese guys would make it appear that the Japanese government was dumping dollars covertly. They may have not known about the bonds in their suitcases.

The US dollar would be discredited and the Japanese government would appear to be responsible. The whole story about the Italian mafia is just a cover story. The unidentified boogy man did it, PLEASE !!!

By: Murph

Murph — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:34:46 +0000

Assuming the bonds are not counterfeit, does that mean that the Japanese Treasury is trying to dump US bonds, by smuggling them into Switzerland to sell them anonymously, in order to not alarm the US Treasury market?

If the bonds are not counterfeit, this is not a good sign for the dollar and US interest rates.

By: Jesse

Jesse — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:52:45 +0000

Maybe Japan is involved in a conspiracy to dump billions of dollars by having them put into a single suitcase…

or maybe two guys that happened to glance at the bonds once tried to counterfeit them, screwed it up, got caught like dumbasses, and are going to spend a very long time in prison.

Which do you think is more likely?

By: MIke

MIke — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:47:38 +0000

If questions are not answered quickly about this by our government, I would become suspicious of who, what, where and why. I hate to speculate and believe in a conspiracies but…Could this become a buffer for our president if all he has done fails just to save face? Instead of blaming Bush or Ronald Regan he can blame the forgeries made. We need answers now!

By: E.M.Ames

E.M.Ames — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:01:07 +0000

And folks here in the U.S. are wondering why Rep. Ron Paul (TX) is pushing his House Bill 1207 that would require the Federal Reserve be audited, which to date it has NEVER been! Please urge your Congressman to co-sponsor Mr. Paul’s bill. It already has 187 (maybe a few more) co-sponsors, but over 200 will all but guarantee it gets to the floor of the House where it will be debated and, likely, passed.

By: $134 Billion In Seized US Bonds Are Fakes – Washington

$134 Billion In Seized US Bonds Are Fakes – Washington — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 03:26:57 +0000

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By: Irene

Irene — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 20:44:45 +0000

These cannot possibly be authentic. As a previous commenter noted, US bonds have not been issued in paper form for nearly 30 years. Neither could one cash of %500 million bond. They are probably meant to create a false impression to gullible parties of some sort of financial crisis es as part of a scam.

By: Stephen

Stephen — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:40:15 +0000

There is no way that these are fake and anyone who would believe otherwise is completely deluded by propoganda. Who or where would anyone exchange a note for 500 million or 1 billion for anything without it being verified. This screams of wholesale robbery by the people or entities behind the federal reserve or the effort of Japan to drop their dollar assets in exchange for the euro or other currency preceeding a collapse of the dollars value. Who tipped off the Italians, I don’t know but if it was Japan dropping dollars I could presume maybe the CIA used some intelligence to possibly protect some big hitters here who depend on the stable value of the dollar and didn’t want Japan to get them to switzerland.

By: Dennis

Dennis — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:01:09 +0000

Jezz, all you people jumping the gun, they are car company CEO’s!

Or they won the lottery.

Or they are just collectors, you know, like OJ!

By: John Luke

John Luke — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:28:39 +0000

Sad to say (because there are so many arguments against the “counterfeit hypothesis”: Ann Fisher made the best summary! … and the joke hypothesis is ruled out by the official report issued to media by the Italian financial police headquarters!) on Italian media nothing new has been published on this HUGE affair, with the notable exception of an article on June 12 by a small independant (even if it is a Christian Roman Catholic organization, it is not strictly following Vatican news policy) online Asian news provider

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=15505&size=A

My feeling is that US, Italian, Japanese and likely Swiss goverments soon ruled to cover-up this record smuggling.

By: David

David — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:56:49 +0000

Obivously some reading this report aware of the rarity of these financial instruments and the past activities of the North Koreans. Only governments have the resources to create or have this much money in bonds. The U.S. Treasury’s response to questions concerning this incident as report on the Fox News Channel is that they have no response.

By: $134 Billion U.S. Bond Mystery Continues In Italy

$134 Billion U.S. Bond Mystery Continues In Italy — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:26:30 +0000

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By: mike edwards

mike edwards — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:48:12 +0000

The bonds are fake. I read the italian press release and they say the bonds are from 1934. in 1934 with that sum you could buy the entire world. more, this kind of bonds never existed. and bonds with the 1934 date surface from time to time ( all fake). the story goes the the CIA wanted to help anti comunist guerillas and send a plane with the money. first there was no CIA back there, and second when you send money you send either in local currency or real dollars. I don’t think an underground movement will go to o bank and say I need change for 500 000 000 $.
this is just a scam made by 2 stupid people.

By: Hans Freigh Helvetica

Hans Freigh Helvetica — Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:37:16 +0000

Swiss-made granite skis are quite expensive. My theory: 2 Japanese business men on a foreign shopping trip. Try our chocolate bullion while you are here.